I Voted Republican

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10. I voted Republican because I believe that the Rich including families making over $250,000 need big tax breaks so that they have more money to spend. 9. I voted Republican because I believe that Its OK to attack sovereign nations under false Pretenses. 8. I voted Republican because I know that Big Business will take care of ME before their bottomline and profits. Businesses should be able to DO WHATEVER they like without any oversight! 7. I voted Republican because I believe that everyone should be just like ME. That includes MY skin color and religion. 6. I voted Republican because I don't believe in government interference - Just when it suits me - like natural disasters, Oil leaks, paying for our Freeways, Military etc etc etc. 5. I voted Republican because I believe that even though Republicans had control of our Govt under Bush, Congress and the Supreme Court and did nothing about illegal aliens that its still the Democrats fault. 4. I voted Republican because I believe in the Big Bad "LIBERAL MEDIA" FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER (Created by Faux news) 3. I voted Republican because I don't know how to or have to use my Brain - Faux News and the Other big Corporations tell me how to think. 2. I voted Republican because I don't believe in science and actual facts. 1. I voted Republican because I LIKE SCR@WING UP OUR COUNTRY! (Like Bush did but - but my short term memory made me already forget about that)

Read more: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/07/21/1274573/obama-poised-to-sign-sweeping.html#ixzz0uLN147ic

I voted Democrat because.... 1. I voted Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry whatever I want. I've decided to marry my horse.

2. I voted Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't.

3. I voted Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.

4. I voted Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.

5. I voted Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq, I trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now think we're good people.

6. I voted Democrat because I'm way too irresponsible to own a gun, and I know that my local police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves.

7. I voted Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday can tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.

8. I voted Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

9. I voted Democrat because I believe that businesses should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit.

10. I voted Democrat because I believe liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would never get their agendas past the voters.

^, ^^ on different sides of the same "idiot coin"

Both ridiculous extremes represented. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.

I voted democrat because I like the smell of patchouli and I'm impressed by big words like sustainable.

Just kidding, I voted republican because they're for self-made men like me.

Every morning, I'm awakened by the alarm clock. Alarm clock that's powered by electricity so cheap even WLTP residents can afford it and it fails maybe once or twice a year and then only for a few minutes. If only the gov't hadn't taxed me to death by building hydro electric dam projects.

Then I brush my teeth and shower with water from the reservoirs created by the dams built by the government. Did I mention my house is in Riverside Village, in the flood plain, but that's ok those same dams protect my property from flooding.

I eat breakfast thanks to the greatest farmers in the world. Never you mind that farmers are on the receiving end of generous gov't subsidies.

Then I get in my car and drive to work on one of our glorious interstate highways which are the envy of the world. Shut your damn mouth about how the gov't planned and paid for them and they're free to drive on. The gas tax rapes me in the butt!

As you can see, I'm a self made man. I don't need no handouts from the tax crazy gov't.

I gave up voting years ago.....

THE I VOTED REPUBLICAN ONE WAS ACTUALLY GOOD. THE DEMOCRAT WAS ARGUABLE.

FINAL SCORE: 1-0, I VOTED REPUBLICAN.

THREAD COMPLETE.

"THE I VOTED REPUBLICAN ONE WAS ACTUALLY GOOD."

Good, as in amusing for its vapidity, or good is in accurate and persuasive?

The only one that was even mildly "good" was ^^^

I find Republicans to be disturbingly gay immoral miscreants who rely upon dimwitted villagers for support though they time and again are found ripping people off in personal spending scandals or touching people improperly.

So Schlepp yourselves over to the polls people and show your bootlicking trickledown Reaganite hypocrisy while it's still fresh in the pasture.

^^ I'm sorry Mr. Ahole, the voting is over.

Ya'all are stoopid! ANARCHY!!!! It's the only way to be......free

"I find Republicans to be disturbingly gay immoral miscreants"

Why are democrats selectively homophobic? You like gays when you think they might vote for you but despise them if they choose to be discrete and vote for a fiscally responsible government.

No, I imagine it has something to do with the hypocrisy of gay politicians repeatedly voting for anti-gay legislation.

^ maybe they just don't agree with every piece gay legislation, or maybe they don't think the minority should dictate their special interest agenda to the majority. Not every queer is out, proud and loud you know. Most are actually really quite reserved and don't appreciate the San Francisco set setting the tone for what it means to be a gay American.

I voted Republican because I agree with Abraham Lincoln, you cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich man.

I voted Republican because I agree with Abraham Lincoln, you cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich man.

"I imagine it has something to do with the hypocrisy of gay politicians repeatedly voting for anti-gay legislation."

What is "anti-gay" legislation, and which politicians voted for it? Name some please.

Who wants to destroy the rich man? Who the hell would we tax the shit out of then?

^The poor....the ones who pay no taxes but still enjoy the same government services

wow.

I doubt any of you are rich, or poor enough to understand the truth of the hipocracy of the republican situation. They are sore losers that think stalling progress will get them more votes next year. I hope the majority of intelligent people see through the shit and vote the wig party back in power. The end of the world is a good thing. A collapse of the world bank system will speed that along. Keep fighting rich folk! The normal man will not help you when you can't buy your groceries at the store.

Tax the poor? You can't get blood from a turnip. The middle class has already carried the tax burden long enough. Asking the rich to pay more is not unfair, it's the responsible thing to do. Pay back to the system a portion of what you've exploited. It's not such a great amount that it will change their standard of living.

"Pay back to the system a portion of what you've exploited."

hahahahahaha exploited? Don't hate the rich just because they found a way to make money and you didn't

It's real easy for me. Republicans have made an unholy alliance with the Christian Right. I may not vote Democrat, but I'll never vote Republican while that lasts. My favorite was the South Carolina Republican pres debate in '08. Moderator asked if any of the nine candidates believed in evolution, and not a one of them dared to raise their hand. Case closed.

^FYI Tibbsy, Democrats are just as fundy religious, go to any inner city black church and ask them if we came from monkeys if you don't believe me.

Go to any Black Church period! They are just as dumb as the followers of Falwell but they vote Democrat religiously.....But that makes it okay to pseudo-impartial voters like Tibbs, he votes Democrat religiously too.

"hahahahahaha exploited? Don't hate the rich just because they found a way to make money and you didn't"

I don't hate the rich. They are the folks that create jobs and keep the economy moving. I just think It's only fair they pay back into the system relative to what they've made.

This thread is littered with people who can't think for themselves.

"I just think It's only fair they pay back into the system relative to what they've made."

What makes you so sure they don't already give back? They pay more in taxes, grants and donations than you ever could.

First fact: when you count payroll and sales taxes the "poor" pay a much higher percentage of income than the "rich" in taxes. Income taxes don't mean shit, especially when so much of the upper incomes pay in capital gains, when they declare it, which they only do if they want to claim a profit.

Second, the tripe about black churches is not only sterotypical it's irrelevant. While blacks are solidly democratic (we won't go into why because I'm not the kind to throw around racial charges) they're less than 14% of the base. The Republican base is solidly religious-right whacko. And I've never heard a black minister say a "loyalty test" for a democratic candidate has anything to do with banning gays or denying evolution.

"First fact: when you count payroll and sales taxes the "poor" pay a much higher percentage of income than the "rich" in taxes."

False. The "rich" also pay sales tax and income tax, aka payroll tax. And much more than the poor who tend to qualify for tax rebates and credits more so than the 'rich'.

"Second, the tripe about black churches is not only sterotypical it's irrelevant."

It is neither stereotypical nor irrelevant. You inject religion into the argument. I just spent the last 8 months living in the south and great lakes region and got to visit many "black" churches....when was the last time you went to one Tibbs? Your assertion that the Republican base is "solidly religious-right whacko" is nor more true than if I were to say the Democrat Base is "solidly religious-left socialist nutbags."

Tibbs, I truely hope folks like you just quitely go away, you folks do more harm to the political discourse of this nation than anything in the last 40 years. Why don't you leave your tiny mental box sometime?

Interesting desire, but in fact it's you and your ilk who are going away, after basically spending the last 40 years destroying the country. Enjoy Idaho and Alabama. They're the only places you'll find company over the next 40 years.

Partly because you're just wrong, but mostly because you're an idiot. Income tax is not "aka payroll tax," you moron. Payroll tax is mostly FICA (Social Security for you idiots) and the rich do not pay it at all - it's capped to the first $102,000, so under that one pays 100% and above that one pays 0%. The "rich" pay sales tax too, but while virtually 100% of a lower income pays the tax on every purchase, very little of the higher income pays it. As a business owner in Idaho, for instance, I don't pay sales tax on 80% of what I buy in order to produce, but those who buy my products (unless exempt in some other way, such as state agency) always pay tax. Get it? Me: doesn't pay sales tax. Everybody else: does pay sales tax.

And, as a business owner, of course I have the option of buying nearly everything in my life through the business, thereby becoming a deductible expense, so that not only do I not pay sales tax, it's not declared as personal income (i.e., no income tax... starting to get the idea?) and gets written off at the end of the year, hence no business tax. And if I do want to "retain" money, I just keep it in the business and if at some point I want to pay myself a bucketload of it, I declare it as a "capital gain" and therefore don't pay a penny of payroll or income tax on it at all. This isn't some big secret. It's why rich people buy businesses they don't even know the address of half the time. And when they get too rich to hide their income through a donut shop, they declare a holding company and headquarter it in the Bahamas. Then they don't even pay the U.S. capital gains.

The republican base is in fact religious nuts. As Paul observes in "Dune," the one with the power to destroy a thing controls the thing. No, not every republican is a religious nutjob. But the religious nutjobs have veto power over virtually every candidate, precinct delegate and committeeman, so no serious republican can survive today's party without sucking serious fundamentalist cock. I used to just respectfully disagree with part of the republican agenda. Now the whole thing makes me puke. And no, I'm not willing to defend the democrat agenda, either. But it doesn't make me viscerally vomitous.

Although you do.

No fair using facts and logic, Tibbs. Politics today is all about talking points. You didn't even use the word freedom.

"The republican base is in fact religious nuts."

You say it's fact and then quote a crappy science fiction movie to back it up? You sir, are delusional and your bootlicking cheerleader follow up posts only serve to reaffirm that. Pathetic is the word that bests suits you.

"I have the option of buying nearly everything in my life through the business,"

Oh, well enjoy your audit should you choose put that new Corvette on the company card.

"And no, I'm not willing to defend the democrat agenda, either" Yet you refuse to admonish them for doing the same exact thing you accuse Republican of doing...why? You know they do it too, just admit it. You vote Democrat regardless of the people or issues involved. You just look for a D next to the name when you are in that voting booth and that is good enough for you...right?

I think I've figured out your tactic, see you never actually define who the scary "religious" boogymen are you just like them to the right and to Republicans. It's a scare tactic the fringe left has enjoyed for as long as I've been following American politics. But I bet you'll never admit that the Democrats pander to the same religious fringes. That's why Hillary or Barack can get away with giving political speeches inside churches and not get blasted for being part of the "religious wacko" club.

Tibbs, just man up to it. You and your kind are hypocrites. You are quick to point the finger out but you never take a look in the mirror. It's the same problem Republicans had during Bush's first term and ultimately like them, you too shall fall.

"and then quote a crappy science fiction movie"

Actually, we adults read the book(s). Company cars have been a way of life for decades and wouldn't cause a moment's worry about an audit.

Directly to your point: sure I'm a hypocrite. Almost everybody is, politically, because everything has gray area. However, our own little election here is a perfect example. Last election I voted for the republican Hedrick for state rep because he had some experience as county clerk for many years.

This year he got beat in the republican primary by Sharon "nutball" Nutzall, who claims God ordered to run, says anybody who uses a condom is guilty of murder and whose qualifications consist of... well... okay, she has no qualifications at all.

I don't need to look very far to find 'pub religious right whackos, and it's getting easier all the time, whereas I can't find a single democrat "catering to the same religious fringes," and if they did they wouldn't last long - as opposed to republicans booting their own incumbent to worship this particular nutcase.

Correction: Heinrich and State Senate. Not that I agreed with him on much, nor that he's some apostate who Nutball and the rest of the religiously insane republicans had to boot. He insists life begins at conception and the government has to enforce that, and his economic platform is that the government shouldn't be allowed to print currency and should honor only gold while abolishing all property taxes.

But that's not nutty enough for the "new" republicans - I guess because God didn't ask him to run.

"Company cars have been a way of life for decades and wouldn't cause a moment's worry about an audit."

I don't see too many 'vettes as company cars. But go ahead and try it if you think you can write it off. Let us know how it goes.

"whereas I can't find a single democrat "catering to the same religious fringes"

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/24/us/politics/24obama.html

Apparently Faith does have a role in politics, your chocolate overload deems it so.

"No fair using facts and logic, Tibbs. Politics today is all about talking points. You didn't even use the word freedom."

Awesome.......

^ For a retarded bot fly, yes.

I vote democrat at all costs because it's more important to me that I elect people like Barney Frank and Charlie Rangel, who although are unethical and line their pockets with tax-payer money, they at least will still fight for me and my boyfriend to someday maybe have the option to marry if that is something we choose to do, but probably won't because homosexual men are notoriously unfaithful.

^^^^ Oh he pwnd u good Tibbs, you and your bootlicking alter ego.

Have to assume you posted the fake Tibbs and the pwnd line. I gave up after "chocolate overload." A battle of wits is no fun with an unarmed opponent. Have fun going extinct with your borrowed platitudes even though you have no experience or knowledge.

"you never actually define who the scary "religious" boogymen" - but you can't address it when I name a local one. And after 30 years, I think I'll take my own experience in business over your imagined expertise and your presumed but wrong projections of my voting habits.

Too bad. I actually enjoyed this until you went from merely stupid to ignorantly racist.

^You use too many words just to say nothing at all. One local no name politician and you think you can paint an entire party, but when it's shown to you that YOUR party is just as guilty you are predictably silent.

I guess if your point was genuine and not just red meat fodder for the left-wing lemming chorus line you would have maybe owned up to it, but you didn't so to an intelligent person you are no different than the 'boogey men' you decry.

You're right it's no fun battling wits with the witless...I hope you bring some next time.

"Have fun going extinct with your borrowed platitudes even though you have no experience or knowledge."

He's shown himself to have much more of both than you, sir.

Why do you ignorant fucks refer to either of these groups as a "party"? This shit is far from fun.....

I'm trying to figure out the "chocolate overload" part. Did he just eat a case of Kit-Kats? No, I figure fucktard is actually revealing himself as the ranting racist he actually is so what he really meant was "chocolate overlord" and he just typed it wrong. On the other hand, his actual posts reveal himself to be so incredibly stupid that he might well not know how to actually spell the word, and maybe just heard it on the history channel as "Operation Overload" during D-Day shows and thinks that's actually the word.

In either case, it's kind of fun reading through the whole Tibbsy-battle thing. Fucktard vomits a talking point and demands specifics. Tibbs gives them, then fucktard ignores them and rants another, then Tibbs says more facts, then fucktard ignores them again, until finally the only thing he's left with is "chocolate overload" (or lord, or whatever he thinks he means.) Being impartial if retroactively stupid, actually looked at fucktard xenotard (now demonstrably racist)'s link. It has Obama, President of the United States and Commander in Chief, (oh, sorry, I meant chocolate overlord) saying that we should respect religious points of view instead of using them to divide us.

Um.... what? This is evidence that republicans aren't running religious fascists for office?

I like the last comment, because it uses sir. But, it's stupid. Fucktard used not one example of truth based on knowledge or experience. In fact, he pulled all of it out of his ass. Seriously. I'm afraid to admit I had nothing better to do, so I read through the thread. Not a fact or attribution anywhere. When confronted with an answer to his questions, he ignored it. When confronted with the ignorance, he changed subject and started name-calling. That, after insisting there's no such thing as a company car.

By the way, you don't use a 'vette as a company car. The body's fiberglass. Your magnetic company sign won't stick to it.

Just thought I'd chime in. It was entertaining, even if the ending was dull.

^Tibbs' bootlicking alter ego. Tibbs, you cited not one fact. You addressed not a single point. You failed miserably, but it funny watching you publish post to cover up this and at the same time cheer you on. Ra-ra go team!

I suppose the Inca, Maya and Aztecs are racists for hating Spainards.

^Check and Mate.

^Check and Mate.

You really shouldn't vote republican. It is not just injurious to America, it is detrimental on an international level.

^yeah but you shouldn't vote Democrat either for those exact same reasons, and since we have a 2 party system what are we supposed to do, not vote?

"Um.... what? This is evidence that republicans aren't running religious fascists for office?"

No. It's evidence that both sides agree religion and politics are too intertwined to seperate and make a big stink about. Even the President you voted for believes this, so to say one side is full of "religious wackos" (which is mere personal opinion anyway) is ridiculous because if both sides pander too and speak for the faithful then they are guilty representing "religious wack-jobs" to somebody.

Of course you probably missed that because your tiny 2 dimensional brain won't let you construct complex ideas, too outside the 24 hr news cycle box for you. Better stick to the blogosphere pundits and PBS to spoon feed you your opinions.

But this is America, a land where the even the religiously unstable can win office. I realize folks like Tibbs and the bootlicking 4 would love nothing better than to see this place become an Atheist police state, but Science H. Logic! It ain't going to happen.

Why do you hate America, Tibbs?

"Um.... what? This is evidence that republicans aren't running religious fascists for office?"

No. It's evidence that both sides agree religion and politics are too intertwined to seperate and make a big stink about. Even the President you voted for believes this, so to say one side is full of "religious wackos" (which is mere personal opinion anyway) is ridiculous because if both sides pander too and speak for the faithful then they are guilty representing "religious wack-jobs" to somebody.

Of course you probably missed that because your tiny 2 dimensional brain won't let you construct complex ideas, too outside the 24 hr news cycle box for you. Better stick to the blogosphere pundits and PBS to spoon feed you your opinions.

But this is America, a land where the even the religiously unstable can win office. I realize folks like Tibbs and the bootlicking 4 would love nothing better than to see this place become an Atheist police state, but Science H. Logic! It ain't going to happen.

Why do you hate America, Tibbs?

^ you are retarded.

All insults aside, I have to wonder at those who see Jerry Falwell and Liberty University, Pat Robertson, the Family Forum, Phyllis Schlafley and the Eagle Forum, years of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove plying the religious right, say that there's no connection between the republican party and the religious right. It just defies all common sense not to mention all current history.

I didn't attack anybody. All I said was that based on the obvious and historical intertwining of the religious right and the republican party, it made it very difficult to vote republican. Not that I don't. As I said, I voted for Heinrich. He's replaced by nutball, who has no qualifications except for being a religious whacko, and on that basis alone I could not vote for her, therefore the right-wing alliance influences my vote against republicans.

That's the reality. Talk platitudes all you want, the democrats aren't running a religious nutjob. Nor would they. And I can't emphasize it enough: if you want to make a reasoned case, which in some ways you did, don't punctuate it with a racist comment like "chocolate overlord."

It just doesn't make you seem worth talking to. Nor does the jump from not voting for religious whackos equate to a an Atheist police state. It just doesn't make any sense.

I don't hate America. I just hate you. And I'll put my service to the country up against yours any day. That's not personal. I'll put it up to anyone's. And that means that however much I truly do hate you, it doesn't make a pisspot of difference. I'll still die to defend your right to be ignorant, arrogant, stupid and racist.

Nor do I for a moment retract any of the facts I actually presented based on decades of actual experience in business. If you can find anything I said that was not true, bring it. Even the 'vette." If I can hang a sign on it it's a company car.

This tripe about the rich paying the majority, even the overwhelming majority of taxes, is absolutely true. But you have to understand that taxes are paid on "declared" income, and I know from experience that income I don't want to declare -- isn't declared.

I also know that deductions serve a purpose. This absolute nonsense about "small business" income being taxed kills job is just that - nonsense. The reverse is true. If I've got $100,000 sitting around doing nothing, it's taxed. If I hire somebody and pay them wages, it's not - it's deducted. The tax code PAYS ME to hire people - and to buy equipment, which I can depreciate. And to advertise, and to expand inventories, and even to join trade associations - all deductible.

This is why I get so hopped up at talking points. Because they're absolutely, completely false, and unlike people who watch media to choose their sides, I absolutely know what reality is. I completely know that when 'pubs say that most small businesses net more than a quarter-million a year, they're wrong. When they say that increasing the income tax 3 percent on top earners kills jobs, they're wrong.

When the goal of American business is to escape taxes, they invest. When they're allowed to keep it without investment, they gamble. We only have to look agt the last few years to know that.

It just frustrates me that so many who have eyes will not see.

"I didn't attack anybody."

Of course not. You bootlicking alter ego does that for you so you don't have to.

"I have to wonder at those who see Jerry Falwell and Liberty University, Pat Robertson, the Family Forum, Phyllis Schlafley and the Eagle Forum, years of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove plying the religious right, say that there's no connection between the republican party and the religious right."

No one is saying that, you bacon stuffed twat. What we're saying is both sides are guilty of pandering to the faithful. "religious nut-job" boils down to personal opinion.

"Talk platitudes all you want, the democrats aren't running a religious nutjob. Nor would they."

Depends on your definition of "religious nutjob". I see to recall our Commander in Chief was a regular at this particular nutjob's church for 20 years....that is until he conveniently became a political liability: http://a.abcnews.com/Blotter/DemocraticDebate/story?id=4443788&;page=1

Or who could forget this race-baiting religious wacko's democratic bid for the presidency: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton

Now I know what you're gonna say Tibbsy, 'but but, they aren't the religious nuts I was talking about.' So? They are the religious nuts to somebody. And they play for your team. There's no difference between a Rev. Falwell and a Rev. Wright other than the pet issues they pander to their congregation.

Of course it's clear the party is also full of your average run of the mill nutjobs though...aside from crooks. http://www.zombietime.com/beach_impeach_iv/IMG_9147.JPG

"And I'll put my service to the country up against yours any day."

Is that a threat? If you served you served, good for you. It doesn't save you from being an anti-American asshole. I've met plenty on both sides of the spectrum in the service.

"I'll still die to defend your right to be.."

Yeah I bet you will, why not put your money where your mouth is.

"Even the 'vette." If I can hang a sign on it it's a company car." Uh-huh, 'cause I see alot of Corvettes with company signage on them.

"This is why I get so hopped up at talking points." So hopped up you use your own 'talking points'?

"It just frustrates me that so many who have eyes will not see." Nice, you even ended it with a dickhole sentence, because somebody who fundamentally disagrees with you is obviously blind. I mean how could YOUR mr.Tibbs approved opinion possibly be wrong? It's not you it's everyone definitely.

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